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flatland wheels? + Hub advice please.
16/09/2011
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Looks like I need new wheels so....

What should I look for in a good flat land rim?

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16/09/2011
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Araya 7x steel rims ?
Just kidding [Image Can Not Be Found]

I got Odyssey hazard light rims on the bike i got now,
I guess they do the job ? =)

17/09/2011
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cheers anttoni.

Are 36 or 48's?

17/09/2011
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You may wish to consider G-Sport rims which are tried and tested by many flat, park and street riders alike.

Ribcage - 500grams (chrome 540grams)
Rollcage - 450grams (chrome 490grams)
Birdcage - 408grams

The rims also feature horizontal cross-lacing which increases lateral wheel strength.
More info: G-Sport rims[/url:1ny49zyw

If weight is of concern, then be cautioned that some other brands under spec the weight of their rims - especially chrome editions by up to 100grams which is substantial considering it

17/09/2011
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So weight is a key factor, lighter is better?
I would have assume rotational weight would aid balance?
What the view on spoke numbers?

17/09/2011
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Many seems to be crazy about the weight thing these days,
Is that the new school [Image Can Not Be Found] ?
Just ride with what you got or can afford [Image Can Not Be Found]

I got 36s radial laced, no problems so far.

17/09/2011
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Also.... hubs.

I have a frame with 10mm rear axle dropouts. (current wheel is 14mm axle)
I like running a 9 tooth.
What options do I have other than shaving the dropout?

17/09/2011
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Depends on your needs, colony, alienation, sun ryhno are my top picks for weight and strength with out being over kill...
36h 3 cross will be a good choice for strength and stiffness... Double butted spokes if you want are the best...
Stay away from ti spokes as they break easy...
Hubs are personal choice but big meaty hubs aren't necessary,
Taska 9t hubs are light and reliable and cheap...
10mm 3/8" axles are usually enough...

17/09/2011
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Hubs wise you get what you pay for. If you can afford a nice front hub like Profile or a G-Sport Marmoset you won't regret it.

G-Sport Birdcages would be my pick for a 36H rim.

18/09/2011
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I've been using an Odyssey hazard lite wheelset with an Odyssey reloader freecoaster since 2005. 14mm axles // 48 spokes. No problems at all. Probably considered heavy for 2011 standards.

If you want no hassles: whether you're under or over 80kg if you're using 14mm // 48 spoke wheels you're not going to break anything while riding flat.

If you're under 80kg: you can run 3/8 // 36 spoke wheels. They'll be strong enough and you'll save on unnessary weight.

After a bit of a survey from riders at DUG Melburn: I found out that even if you weigh more than 80kg you can still get away with 3/8 // 36 spoke wheels as long as you've got your bike dialled. (I am considering switching to a lighter wheel set but I don't want to do that if I'm going to start breaking things and thereby investing money only to essentially down-grade my ride).

A few riders right now are using Proper hubs and rims as a front wheel right now.

WEIGHT: There are a few rims out there that are ultra light 400g or so. These can only be used brakeless. The rider themselves would need to be really light otherwise they're not going to stay true. One of the Brisbane riders has this problem right now. His rear wheel is majorly warped. Some riders only run 32 spoke wheels. I think there was a bit of an experiment with 28 spoke wheels a couple of years back...

I guess find the balance that will suit you. Don't go sacrificing essential strength just to save a few grams. At the same time if having a light bike is helpful for you you might be able to give up some of the unnecessary strength of a 14mm //48 spoke wheel and have no problems.

Freecoasters: It seems that the commonly used Freecoasters all have their strengths and weaknesses. Nankai, KHE, Taska, Ares... There also seems to be a sharing in the branding of some of these hubs (Exactly the same hub but a different brand name on it). Best to get advice from Flatpaul and Flatnatics for them. I've never had any problems with either the Primo Bomb hub or Odyssey reloader hub but to be fair I don't do any tricks on the pedal so I've never fully worked a freecoaster.

As for 14mm axles in a 3/8 frame: You can either get a different frame or hub (if you don't want to modify anything).

Or

You can cut your drop outs or file 'flats' on your axle. A 'flat' is where you file down the part of the axle that would sit in the dropout down to 3/8 so it will slot into the dropout.

Maybe if you're lucky you can find a stock 14mm axle that comes with 3/8 flats on it. Ultra rare though. I think Demolition released an axle like that. But even if you found one it may not fit in your hub.

'Ayaya 7x rim': I had the Super 7x rims on my Haro Master with a Primo Bomb freecoaster - dope stuff.

18/09/2011
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If you're on a budget, then the '

18/09/2011
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Cheers for the advice guys, its awesome.

I agree with Flat paul, you get what you pay for but only to a degree. As Flatnatics said you can get good gearthat not expensive.
Given that Im a beginner, buying the best may be a total waste of money just now.

There some good option that have been suggested.

Whats the deal with freecoasters?
Is this the norm amungst flatlanders?

[quote="Andrew":2lj4nsaq]You can cut your drop outs or file 'flats' on your axle.[/quote:2lj4nsaq]

Exactly what I did. An axle is a lot cheaper than a frame and easier to replace. <!-- sWink --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /><!-- sWink -->

By the way I'm unber 80kgs.

[quote="HomeLess":2lj4nsaq]If you're on a budget, then the '

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