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I don't understand. Why do "we need to promote Australian flatland to the world"? For what purpose, what

Probably would look good to see discussion here of some sort... It has been dead for months...
Im sure there are a lot of young riders that don't post let alone even look on this site...
I know for a fact that besides Shane that other ppl I ride with never even look on here...

So how many ppl that contribute to this forum actually ride more then once a week if once a month??? Does anyone actually ride 3-7 days a week here???
I think that we need to concentrate on getting some sort of scene here(good luck) then worry about os... Seriously, do you think ppl are gonna come here strictly for riding??? I think that it's most likely ppl come here because of Australia and flatland is a bonus...
I still enjoy flatland and meeting up at jams/events but get disappointed that there's only a few that really care...

[quote="HomeLess":1ygzcwxz]I find it rather ironic that people are discussing the promotion of Australian Flatland to the world (or Australia), and also requesting Jams rather than Comps, yet they cant even be bothered to spend a minute making a post about an upcoming Jam on 8th Jan 2012[/url:1ygzcwxz with an Interstate/International visitor - Eiji Kataoko. Not everyone (especially new or prospective members to the sport) is in contact via TXT/phone, Facebook, or wish to troll through pages of forum discussion to find events.

Attendance would have been greater (and other riders and admirers of the sport would have appreciated) had someone kindly made the effort to create a new Topic in the EVENTS section of the forum; or in worst case, a post in the 'IMAX Sessions - Victoria' thread. A media photographer or two may have also turned up for publication shots; which has previously occurred when Interstate or International riders have visited!

[b:1ygzcwxz]It's your sport, scene, forum; you may wish to consider helping to improve and promote it rather than continually leaving it for someone else to do.[/b:1ygzcwxz][/quote:1ygzcwxz]

i get where you're coming from but i don't see the need for the negative tone of your post. i didn't think that the riders that knew about Eiji coming "left it for someone else" to promote. i know for a fact that word was spread in multiple ways bar creating an actual topic about it (which is already in the forums anyway). i'm afraid that the lack of activity in these forums lately has left it at the bottom of the list of places to notify people about what's going on. that's how i feel anyway

at the end of the day, the jam session happened and everyone that was there had a great time. we even had a couple of young fixie guys watch and lend their bikes to play on. yes we could've had a bigger turnout or have had photographers there but i could say that for most small jams. just because all types of promotion wasn't exhausted, doesn't make the rider's motivations for the scene any lesser.

by the way, a small write up and some photos are going up soon! i'll create a new topic for that [Image Can Not Be Found]

It is great to see a new topic which has opened up some lively debate on the forum. Obviously we all have differing opinions as why the flatland scene in Australia is where it is at currently.

Scepticism and negativity towards others' opinions, suggestions, or projects just plain gets old. If you are trying to add something positive to this scene, fantastic. Otherwise, what exactly are you doing lurking on a forum and only adding when you feel someone needs to be taken down a notch?

I believe in those who actively contribute to BMX in a positive manner as those really hold any weight in the scene. Shaun, Paul, and Shane continue to do a lot for this community and seem to receive very little thanks for it. I am lucky enough to consider each of these guys friends, although most of us live at different corners of the country. I try not to speak for other people, however I do believe in sticking up for your friends.

Of course, there are many others who contribute more than I ever could to the scene, and for the others that I have left out - thank you.

Personally, I don't believe there is a conflict of interest in the promotion of BMX Flatland Australia on this site, those that have put the hard work into this new project have placed banners on it - thats it. The site itself does not try to 'sell' you anything.. If it takes off, hopefully it may actually be able to close some of the distance between us by freely sharing pics, edits and so forth.

BMX has given me quite a lot over the years, some of the best friends I've had have been through BMX. I wish I could ride more than I do, however I'm still as stoked to ride each time as I was when I was 15 and just getting into flatland. I remember those who helped get me into flat and hopefully I am able to help others get involved in the sport.

I have very little time for the elitist crap that goes on. Put up or shut up. Simple.

Thanks for taking the time to read my 2 cents, I welcome your opinions and feedback.

Cheers,

Joel [Image Can Not Be Found]

you had people who were doing and like typical you have your critics, i ride alone and i enjoy my aloness, i read the article on ali's opinion on flatland in melbs and i was shocked to see he is still bitter, i thought we got past that and shook hands?

i guess some people cant leave things alone or just have too much time on their hands to get on with life, i post no judgement and i wish the community the best, i had lot of fun with you guys and for the better side i met alot of nice and dedicated riders who ignore the sideline crap.... best way to describe flatland australia is to be apart of it, mingle respect and most of all do it for yourself, i find that riding says alot and talk only creates negativity.

forums are good way to communicate but they dont show the scene like it is. less talk more riding and focus on yourself...keeping it clear to progress.

btw happy new year all.....the black sheep.